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Daddy’s Gone Green And He Don’t Care

His Hot Water Saves Money – See Mr. Grouchy Smile

My father lives in a little cabin on Junior’s (my niece – named after me), land. The cabin’s builders in what can only be described as a cranial-rectal infarction, put the 30 gallon hot water heater in the attic where it promptly burnt out after less than a years use.

Junior and her husband Adam got several plumbers to come out and give estimates for the job. All gave estimates in the thousands of dollars because the back wall of the cabin would have to be cut out to remove the old water heater and install the new one.

A few years back I bought a whole-house tankless water heater, which was going into my home I was building before the economy tanked along with my home-building savings. So my tankless water heater has ended up just sitting boxed up in the shed.

waterheaterWell, it didn’t take much thought energy to light that idea bulb! Adam and I cut a piece of plywood 1ft by 3ft (.3 x .91 meters). Measured and started the mounting screws and secured the plywood to the back wall of the attic, as close as possible to the apex of the roof. We slid the unit onto the mounting screws and tightened them down. Then drained and disconnected the water lines from the old tank and pulled new, larger gauge wire from the breaker box to the new tankless unit. We surmised the problem with old water heater was under sized wiring because of the degree of burnt wiring at the tank.

We connected the existing PEX water lines to the 2 ft. (.609 meters) copper pipes we had connected to the input and output of the tankless unit, (an installation requirement). I suppose that’s to eliminate the possibility of PEX and/or PVC melting since it’s so close to the heating elements. All told we spent about an hour hooking it up. I’m not including the 3 hours Adam spent snaking that larger gauge wire through the walls and that little bitty attic, all bent over and sweating profusely. That’s when I felt bad for not going ahead and rerouting everything to the 1st floor, like we had discussed in the first place. We decided that would be too much trouble. Adam has changed his mind on that.

When through, Daddy tried his hot water. It worked, he was happy. I told him his tankless water heater was sustainable and green. He said no it was blue, he saw it before we took it up but he didn’t care what color it was as long as he had hot water. Okey dokey Dad, as always you’re right.

FYI: This happened only three weeks ago so there is no running tally on the energy savings at this time. The kids will let me know the exact numbers when the bill comes in so I can pass it on here. For all you skeptics out there, this conversion to green saved tons of money. And will continue saving money everytime the electric bill comes in. Not to mention a big ‘ol tax break!

…. as the green future unfolds.

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  1. Project Savior Says:

    Good Job on going green.
    I went the entire summer on Solar Hot water. I built it myself and it cost a whopping $40 at it’s peak it provided me with 17 gallons of water heated to 110 degrees every few hours.
    This summer I’ve designed an upgrade that should get the reheat time down. It might be an expensive $60

  2. Linda Says:

    Hi Project Savior … That is really cool! I do not know if I could handle the expenses! LOL! Good for you!

  3. Heath Says:

    There are a ton of things that you can do to help the environment that doesn’t take a ton of investment or time to implement. This is one of those.

  4. Linda Says:

    Hi Heath … You bet and Daddy just loves it.

  5. solarglobalgreen Says:

    I will be interested to see what the savings is from the tankless water heater. Even a small monthly savings is worth it.

  6. Linda Says:

    Hi solarglobalgreen .. Stay tuned, as soon as I know his electric bill, I will post it here.

    Hi Barbara … Yes, he says he can take a shower without worrying about running out of hot water. His only complaint is that when he is adjusting the mixture of hot and cold, it gets hotter before cooler.

  7. Barbara Says:

    WOW!! That seems almost too easy! Sounds like you made your Dad very happy. Now, he’s green thanks to you! Can’t wait to see the savings. 🙂

  8. Grampy Says:

    Sounds great.I am all for anything green.

  9. Karen Says:

    Hurray for good thinking! I’ll bet your dad is very happy.

  10. Lissof Says:

    Hi Linda,

    It sounds as if you should check out the qualifications of your Electrical and Plumbing contractors. The hot water tank itself should have at least a ten year Warrantee. The electrical should never have burned, the wire was undersized or the breaker oversized or… loose electrical connection.

    You were correct in replacing the wire. If the insulation integrity was compromised at the water heater it could have been compromised anywhere along it’s length. A heavier size (larger gauge) wire is a safe way to go, although maybe overkill.

    However if the tank was not leaking, you could have replace an element and the tank would have been functional again.

    But for the element to burn out after only a year, would lead me to looking for an outside reason for it fail prematurely. Either there was a loss of water in the tank while the elements were energized (loss of pump pressure), or the bottom of the tank had sediment build up (sand from the well).

    Or perhaps the electrical connection was not tight to start with, therefore burned wires and an apparent burned element. Which goes back to quality of workmanship issues.

    So all is not lost, if the water holding ability of the tank is not compromised…. Install a “Solar Hot Water” system feeding the original tank it will give you 30 gallon of hot water storage. Plumb the new “Blue Tankless Water Heater” from the original tank. The Tankless will cycle to trim the temperature of water stored in the original tank resulting in further reduced power needs.

    I have a couple of tankless units to be installed at the cabin, but will have a unit located at the kitchen and another at the bathroom to eliminate the long run from the original tank, which will be utilized for storage of Solar Hot Water.

    I would also suggest to have a compentent Electrical person go through the house and check all the wiring connections. I’ve seen new construction have multiple problems with loose connections. The smell of smoke was the first indication of a problem. Not fun.

  11. Linda Says:

    Hi stellamary … Why thank you! If it works for Dad then it will work for everyone. Give it a try!

  12. harry seenthing Says:

    helo is my first time to comment in here, wow is a gramp go green
    .-= harry seenthing´s last blog ..Last Video Most Famous Films of Jennifer Jones =-.

  13. Linda Says:

    Hi Harry … Welcome! yes, gramp is going green whether he likes it or not.

  14. Tom Usher Says:

    Wow, everyone here is really cooperative with the ideas. I love it. Cooperating and helping each other is so much better than competing.

    Piggy backing a tankless on a solar-fed tank is ingenious. That’s what we need for everyone. We need sharing unselfish ingenuity. It’s the only way we are ever going to be truly human toward each other.
    .-= Tom Usher´s last blog ..CAPITALISM DIES =-.

  15. Linda Says:

    Hi Tom … The internet has helped in spreading the word, sharing ideas and showing the latest inventions that are out there.

  16. Lissof Says:

    Hi Linda,

    After reviewing your newest blog on the Mag-Lev VAWT, wind generator, I happened to think if you had even intermintent wind available, you could hook up a wind turbine to supply power. At night when most loads are low, your ( soon to be )solar heated water storage tank could serve as an energy storage devise! Storing the wind energy beyond current consumption as water heated at night after everyone went to bed. Or on those days when the clouds just will not let any solar gain through, the wind just may be able to preheat that water.

  17. Linda Says:

    Hi Lissof … Excellent Idea! Now if I could talk him into releasing some funds to do so.! LOL

  18. Zubair khan Says:

    hey man its a brilliant post really beautiful. i am just new to this site just joined it liked it a lot and i hope i will carry on in the future as well! thanks

  19. Linda Says:

    Hi Zubair … I hope you do so as well! 🙂

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